[DSRP Evidence](https://dsrpevidence.org/)

# Thinking Beyond the Tech: Why Systems Thinking Matters (podcast)

Vital Learning Edge, 2025, Vital Learning Edge (podcast and blog) — Education

Patterns: [Distinctions](https://dsrpevidence.org/pattern/distinctions), [Systems](https://dsrpevidence.org/pattern/systems), [Relationships](https://dsrpevidence.org/pattern/relationships), [Perspectives](https://dsrpevidence.org/pattern/perspectives)

## In short

A podcast episode and workshop that uses DSRP as its foundation for teaching systems thinking to a learning-and-development audience.

## What they found (results)

Systems thinking is presented as essential for cybersecurity and technology professionals, and the workshop teaches holistic problem-solving frameworks rather than tool-level fixes, with the four patterns as its foundation.

## What they set out to do (purpose)

A blog post from Vital Learning Edge, an Australian training organization, promoting a podcast episode and the systems thinking workshop that accompanies it, taught by Michael Collins.

These researchers were not testing DSRP. The finding is theirs; the correspondence to DSRP is drawn by this site.

[Source](https://vitallearningedge.com/blog/thinking-beyond-the-tech-systems-thinking-matters-podcast/)